21 December 2007

Andy Goldsworthy is the devil

Up until the last century, our only access to music was either to make it ourselves or find someone who could. Imagine, unless you lived in the city and had means, Mozart's "Marriage of Figaro" was just dots on a page. It is baffling to realize that some of the most complicated and brilliant pieces ever penned were created in such a context. And how did listeners manage to comprehend such complex and lengthy music in just one listen? We take Green Day and pound those 3 minutes into our heads ad nauseum. It is in our nature to over-consume that which we find beautiful (the definition of lust I believe), which has me wondering if our access to nearly any song at any moment has diminished our reverence and consequently our enjoyment of the musical experience. We easily forget that there is beauty in restraint or moderation.

And so goes my curiosity with regards to recording and distributing Urban Hymnal. Part of the delight in the event is its intimacy and isolation; it is just a moment to be had. To record and recycle and relive seems contrary to the nature of a live experience, does it not? But even Goldsworthy made a film and a dozen coffee table books for the sake of permanence, as well as income. What makes him so endearing is his passion towards that which is fleeting (his mediums of choice include leaves, pollen, and ice). I think he is mad. But, I am also envious of his willingness to create and then literally watch as the thorns and dust overtake the work of his hands. I don't know if I'm that brave. I want a record of all I create. A tangible object that I can bring to the marketplace to justify my blood and tears.

So I am decidedly ambivalent as to whether we should record Urban Hymnal or not, knowing that my ideals are probably just that, ideal. For here I am at the office, days after our concert, regretting that I can't relive the experience of Tara's voice floating in the rafters of St. Mark's--even if it is through these unbearable computer speakers. And... here I am, at the office.

9 Comments:

Anonymous jennifer l grabarczyk said...

what an interesting post to stumble across as i break from organizing images of my paintings & other things into a powerpoint presentation... ha.

oh, but this post. there's such restless agony in this and i feel myself caught with you. how luxurious and ridiculously wonderful to relive experiences & moments... music and images... that have captured one's soul, and to do so at one's desire. but grr...like breath, i become caught by my own insatiable desire for moments that linger like air that i cannot contain in any way and have no control over keeping in my pocket. ironically enough, i think i might really want the latter more, but am not so sure my little body can handle the intensity that comes with it. i WANT to continuously try to grasp something that i cannot ever grasp and hold in my hands forever. it leaves me hanging on every second with child-like anticipation. but how maddening that also is to never feel that i'm able to grasp and hold something so beautiful. i want it to be like wind, and i want it to be like stone. and i'm not quite sure where there's middle ground between wind and stone.

it makes me think of our need to build monuments so that we might remember our experiences. in the most primal sense, i know i would be lost without monuments beckoning me gently to remember...as long as i keep living from a place where the monuments don't replace life and i keep trying to grasp for the wind.

maybe if we were just more accustomed to allowing beauty to be beauty for the sake of... beauty... we wouldn't miss so much what was, but hunger & create more...

but... grr... and pay bills??

back to my powerpoint.
grateful for this post.

3:41 AM  
Blogger Tara said...

I see what you are saying jen. it makes so much sense. creating beauty can leave you hungry in more ways than one - because it doesn't pay the bills? *grin*

I hear both of you. I also like the comparison of wind and stones and the setting up of altars or remembrances of encounters with the wind.

But remembering can also be flesh and blood, bread and wine. so what does that mean? maybe THAT is the continuing to hunger and create more. We need to be a people calling people and ourselves to remember the beauty and to record it. Not just encounters with the wind, and remembrances of it in stone, but may it be a life-blood pumping and as alive and tactile as skin and may it be our food and drink daily.

I am not sure what that means yet, but interested in finding out.

thank you for your words.

8:41 PM  
Anonymous greg said...

Zadok --- I lean towards allowing the performances to be moments of beauty and community that pass as do all moments of our lives. Of course I also recognize that recordings are pieces of art as well. However there is a difference between creating a recorded production as a gift from the present to the future vs. making a recording as a documentation/freezing of a performance/moment. The second one seems to me more like a colonization of the future by the present. Sorry if this abstract/buddhist language is more confusing than enlightening.

David Byrne has more to say on the topic:

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_byrne?currentPage=all
(go to the "what is music" part of the article)

1:16 PM  
Blogger John Burk said...

personally, i go to concerts out of selfishness, to get 'lost' in a live performance. i buy the cd to support the artist. i have completely separate expectations for each.

9:49 PM  
Blogger Patrick Meagher said...

What a great struggle: How do you best care for the moment that was Urban Hymnal 1 (and following UHs)? Since we talked, Z, I've thought of two different approaches: U2 & Pearl Jam. Bono, et al, unabashedly "capture" 1 or 2 performances every tour to present to those who want to relive the moments. Pearl Jam, at least for a while, were releasing dozens and dozens of shows willy nilly. I think a difference lies in how U2 approached their recordings uniquely from their regular unrecorded live shows. That is to say, there were different production goals (lighting, set list, etc) that went into making a live moment viable for repeated viewing. PJ didn't do this as much, and turning every live moment into a permanent one dilluted both the concert and the CD.

I think what I'm saying is I'm still probably against the recording of every UH, but perhaps there's a place to create some intentionally recordable moments somewhere in your guys' future (studio or live) that wouldn't violate what you try to accomplish in the live shows.

Dear God, I think I'm actually calling for a 'both/and' solution.... I am a comodity.

Peace,
Patrick

12:58 AM  
Blogger dan said...

yeah, I guess my gut instinct would be to say, if y'all in Urban Hymnal feel led or inspired to create a recording, then create that recording, and let it be it's own thing. Whether it's an intentional 'performance recording', or something completely different. Just do it for it's own sake. But don't just record one of your experiences for the sake of holding onto it.

This sounds kind of directive, more so than I intend, but that's my own 'what I would do' two cents. BTW, I really like what jennifer says, about wanting to grasp something that you can never fully grasp, and remaining in that 'grasping but not able to grasp' mode. Sounds like what it's like to be in a relationship :)

9:34 AM  
Blogger kay said...

Hey Zadok... Happy New Year.... I got to talk a little with Matt C. about UH1 after getting to play alongside him for Christmas Sunday worship. Serendipitous to have checked in to read your blog today. I was just having a conversation with an old friend who I played in orchestra with in high school, and was telling her how part of me wishes that we didn't have recorded music... that if we really wanted to hear music, we'd have to gather a group of people together and play together, and what was created would, more often than not, not be reproducible. But how lovely to be able to give and receive a gift so personal as the expression of music from one musician to another as well as anyone gathered to listen. Of course, this doesn't address the issue of accessibility, but i've been known to be a bit of an idealist.

10:43 AM  
Blogger Zadok said...

This blog, once again, put to good use by your comments. Many thanks.

I am beginning to accept the idea that these are two different art forms: live performance and recorded. And, that to abandon one for the sake of the other is not necessarily a solution to music addiction or experience colonization (brilliant notions by the way). Also, this dialog has unearthed a personal style of relating that I don't find too delightful: I tend to overextend control when I think someone or something does not fit within my ideals. Obviously, I don't believe that recorded music is evil--I actually prefer it to live music. So why do I feel compelled to control how others control themselves? It shows my lack of faith in the individual. Maybe I'm a Marxist.

Well, I can aim for moderation regarding my view of moderation; and something about grasping the wind and the stone.

And Patrick, regarding your U2/Pearl Jam comparison and the issue of recording and dilution. U2 only needs one record of each tour because they carefully construct one perfect experience and then replicate it each night. Pearl Jam sets out to craft unique concerts/setlists each night and I can certainly imagine wanting multiple records.

12:42 PM  
Anonymous Rich Brimer said...

Zadok said..."I am beginning to accept the idea that these are two different art forms: live performance and recorded."

Hmmmm. I love that statement. As a visual artist who loves to paint "en plein air" and in public places (in a cafe, church, sidewalk, beach) I often reflect on the experience of my time painting in the out-of-doors, and the final "recording" of that experience which is presented in the painting at the end of the day. Or, I may go into the studio with 5 other artists and have a live model in front of us for three hours, examining each curve of her nose, and hip and breast and calf and discovering the relationships between them all... I record those relationships with paint and then to look at the painting after those three hours.

So the comparison is, I think, the same with music and painting. The "live" experience will be very different each time, while the recording can be a good one or a bad one (think of recording U2 concert by sticking a cell phone in the middle of the auditorium, compared to one through the sound board.) So what I am saying in all of this is that it is good (and I believe holy) to create, and sometimes the recording of that creating becomes something that reflects that artist's experience of creating it. Other times it is better to just "remember" the time and wipe the painting off the canvas. I am totally OK with that and do not get my underwear-in-a-bunch if my painting comes out "different" than I expected. So, I become a bit dis-attached to the "recording" and also have been able to enjoy giving many paintings away after painting them in public.

Thanks for the community blog and collaborating with the world.

9:15 AM  

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